Matthew Soerens and Eric Costanzo join us for a conversation about how Christian Nationalist organizations misrepresent immigrants to cultivate anxiety and rage.

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Matthew Soerens is the US director of church mobilization and advocacy for World Relief and the national coordinator of the Evangelical Immigration Table. Previously Matthew served as a Department of Justice–accredited legal counselor with World Relief’s local office in Wheaton, Illinois. He is the coauthor of Welcoming the Stranger and Seeking Refuge.

Eric Costanzo (PhD) is a pastor and teacher from Tulsa, Oklahoma, who writes about biblical, cultural, and historical topics along with global issues affecting the church. Eric is executive director for RisingVillage.org, an organization with initiatives to help marginalized people become full participants in their communities. He is also the author of Harbor for the Poor