Pastor Jason Fischer joins the pod to turn the tables and interview Caleb on his understanding of American Christan Nationalism.

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About Caleb E. Campbell
Caleb Campbell has been a pastor at Desert Springs Bible Church in Phoenix, Arizona, since 2006 and lead pastor since 2015. He is a doctoral student at Fuller Theological Seminary and serves as the regional director for the Surge Network. He lives in Phoenix with his wife and children.

His new book Disarming Leviathan: Loving Your Christian Nationalist Neighbor launches July 2nd with InterVarsity Press. Preorder and view a sample chapter at https://www.ivpress.com/disarming-leviathan